A blog raising awareness about a woman who lost custody of her child because of her performance art.

Monday, February 20, 2006

Detailed History of the Case



INTRO

Child custody cases are so common and vicious these days that almost everyone knows someone who has been affected by them. These cases are not tried by juries. We trust juries to decide whether someone lives or dies, whether someone is sentenced to life or parole, but when it comes to the most helpless members of our society, our children, our justice system relies on decisions made by individual judges.

HISTORY OF THE CASE

This case began in 1997 when Rachel Knight and her son, Kohl Jary moved to Texas to be with her fiancé, Steve Bevilacqua. Jeff Jary, Kohl’s birth father, remained in rural Upstate New York, living off the dole in the same bedroom he grew up in at his father’s house. Judge James P. Punch entered into the records a custody agreement Rachel and Jeff worked out between themselves. After a series of very emotionally-charged court battles, Kohl’s custody seemed finally settled in May, 2000.

2005/2006

December 18, 2005, Rachel put Kohl on a flight to Rochester, New York to be picked up by Jeff for his Christmas visitation. This year Jeff was finally required to share half the transportation expenses. The visitation plan was for Kohl to be returned by Jeff to Rachel’s mother on January 2, 2006, so Kohl could spend time with his mother’s relatives before returning to Georgia on January 7, 2006.

Rachel would not see Kohl again until January 20, 2006, when she was allowed one brief overnight visit with Kohl at her mother’s house. Kohl was visibly changed, appearing closed and withdrawn and becoming emotional when the subject of his living arrangements was approached, even very gently, from any direction. He seemed afraid to talk about what was going on in his father’s house, or whether or not he wanted to live there.




CHRISTMAS BREAK 2005/2006

On December 22, 2005, without informing Rachel, Jeff went to the Orleans County Courthouse and presented Judge Punch with a series of allegations about not being able to contact Rachel and needing an order of Temporary Sole Custody in order to prevent Kohl from being kidnapped. Judge Punch issued Jeff a Temporary Sole Custody order and allowed him to keep Kohl after his scheduled Christmas visitation. This was done without making any attempt to contact Rachel and discover whether Jeff’s allegations were true. Rachel did not even receive any paperwork from the court until January 9, 2006 — 17 days after Judge Punch entered the order of Temporary Sole Custody for Jeff.

On February 3, 2006, Judge Punch heard testimony in the case. Jeff entered into evidence 16 exhibits taken from the Internet, 12 of which are photographs of the SubGenius event, X-Day. Kohl has never attended X-Day and is not in any of the pictures. Rachel is depicted in many of these photos, often wearing skimpy costumes or completely nude, while participating in X-Day and Detroit Devival events.

The judge, allegedly a very strict Catholic, became outraged at the photos of the X-Day parody of Mel Gibson’s movie The Passion of the Christ — especially the photo where Jesus [Steve Bevilacqua] is wearing clown makeup and carrying a crucifix with a pool-noodle dollar sign on it while being beaten by a crowd of SubGenii, including a topless woman with a “dildo”.

His Honor also strongly disapproved of the photos of Mary Magdalen [Rachel Bevilacqua] in a bondage dress and papier maché goat’s head. The judge repeatedly asked, “Why a goat? What’s so significant about a goat’s head?” When Rachel replied, “I just thought the word ‘goat’ was funny,” Judge Punch lost his temper completely, and began to shout abuse at Rachel, calling her a “pervert,” “mentally ill,” “lying,” and a participant in “sex orgies.” The judge ordered that Rachel is to have absolutely no contact with her son, not even in writing, because he felt the pictures of X-Day performance art were evidence enough to suspect “severe mental illness”. Rachel has had no contact with Kohl since that day, February 3, 2006.

HOW YOU CAN HELP

The ACLU and other watchdog groups have been contacted, but the wheels of justice turn slowly, especially in matters of judicial oversight. It is likely that the Bevilacqua family will need to raise approximately $50,000 to pursue their case through to an appeals court that will hopefully restore their son to them. Please help by donating whatever you can, or at least spreading the word to others who may be able to help. Any media exposure is welcome as well. Please PayPal all donations to Magdalen@subgenius.com, or send a check directly to:

Rachel Bevilacqua c/o Francis C. Affronti, Esq., 130D Linden Oaks, Rochester, NY 14625

This case has the potential to set a precedent that could affect all moms who have ever attended X-day. If any county court judge can deem attending X-day sufficient reason to take away a child, and get away with it, no one’s children are safe. Please help the ‘Moms for “Bob”’ legal fund with a donation if you can, because the last thing anyone wants is for women to be afraid to come to X-Day or to express themselves artistically however they choose.




50 Comments:

Blogger Modemac said...

Just a note to let you know that a link to your blog has been added to the X-Day Web site (http://www.modemac.com/x-day). Hopefully this will help to spread the word.

4:19 AM

 
Blogger Gratis said...

I'm very interested in your case and was wondering if you could provide some links so that I can learn more.

Thanks so much.

9:56 AM

 
Blogger Anca said...

Your case has also made Boingboing (http://www.boingboing.net), and will shortly be seen by millions.

10:06 AM

 
Blogger Liberal Grrl said...

I can't even tell you how painful this story is to hear. I expect my tax return back at the end of the week and will gladly donate as much as i can then. If it was my son...I can't even think about it. My only son? I can't do much as I am poor and isolated but I do participate in a local independent newspaper doing a weekly web round-up and I will definitely include your blog and synopis so I can get the word around in my local area!

10:50 AM

 
Blogger Amy said...

Help is on the way.

Bear up, you'll have your son back.

11:32 AM

 
Blogger TheGrimReaper said...

This is exactly the problem with religious zealots running the country: any other viewpoint must be "insane." WTF?

Once your story reaches the light of day, Judge Punch will be told to "ride on it."

I'll be working to get this link published on several sites over the next few days.

All the best to you, Steve and Kohl.
The Insider

11:48 AM

 
Blogger lil' lady libertine said...

This is unbelievable. I'm down for whatever on this. I'll donate, and I'm posting this news everywhere I can so others can help, too. I'm so sorry. This won't stand.

12:24 PM

 
Blogger kerri9494 said...

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12:28 PM

 
Blogger kerri9494 said...

What was the custody agreement that was agreed upon? Was it joint custody? Did Kohl's father have particular visitation? Did mom in any way violate the custody agreement?

Because if she did, then Kohl may well have been 'kidnapped' (or mom could at least have been found to be in serious violation of their custody agreement), and the whole X-Day thing is just a red herring -- a reason for a judge to get a hair across his or her rear end, perhaps, but could easily have had nothing to do with the decision.

Where I live, if there's a custody and/or visitation agreement, and one parent violates it, the other parent gets to exercise rights. No matter which parent dances naked in a goat head.

I'm really curious to know what the custody agreement was, and what violation the father alleges. If it has something to do with the judge's disdain for X-Day, that's one thing. But if it has something to do with mom's actions regarding custody and visitaion, that's a different issue entirely. Did Kohl miss visitations with his dad, phone calls, or other things the custody arrangement called for? (This is a big deal in many jurisdictions.) Is dad accusing mom of being an unfit mother?

Anyone able to/care to enlighten? Because if it's *just* about X-Day, that's simply stupid, and the judge should be danced around in effigy. By naked goats.

12:32 PM

 
Blogger Mongo Nikol said...

First of all, if the Sub-G fail to rally around this episode, then SG is dead an buried.

SG is a bona-fide religion. End of story. This is a tremendous civil rights violation.

How do I know? I am co-author of the Andre The Giant Has A Posse meme, and spent 1997 as minister of marketing for SG.

Now, regardless of the fruition of Revelation X, all the clones who have been left behind nonetheless have every right to practice the religion or creed or fun of their choosing.

What's next? A pogram for believers in the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

And what about the Neurocam camp? If they get involved, everyone will be really sorry the judge made this outrgeously offensive decision.

Keep up the good work, and keep a stiff upper lip. You have just got a Rachel-sized challenge put on your plate.

5:03 PM

 
Blogger alclyda said...

As Bob is my witness, I will spread the word of your case.
Don't give up hope, Fight the pipe, and pray for slack....

2:59 AM

 
Blogger phloighd said...

Rachel, I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. I wish I could help you more, as I find this pretty upsetting, both that it happened and that it happened to a fellow yeti. I will post a link here from the Brushwood mailing list, hopefully that will get you a few more donations. Best regards and best of luck.

5:13 AM

 
Blogger dcburner said...

I think some might be waiting to contribute to the legal defense fund until they have access to a verifiable transcript of the judge's words in the Feb. 3 hearing, and/or notarized affidavits from first-hand witnesses. Could you post those? I myself will gladly donate when these are available. Best of luck getting this bad judging undone!

1:07 PM

 
Blogger Doc Martian said...

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.

5:57 PM

 
Blogger Sir Mildred Pierce said...

Can someone post a link to the pictures? I'd sure like to see them.

8:32 PM

 
Blogger Modemac said...

Magdalen has said she will be offline for a couple of days, but she will follow up on her return:

http://tinyurl.com/qjjgg

5:28 AM

 
Blogger Rachel Bevilacqua said...

Thanks to everyone who has commented and donated and sent Steve and I their support. Today is my birthday, so Steve and I are just trying to enjoy it like a normal day. I do not yet have transcripts from the Feb 3 court date, although I have been asking for copies since the moment it happened. This is not surprising, as I did not get my copies of this court's December 23, 2005 summons until January 9, 2006 -- it is a very rural county with a very small staff.

Now that more people are asking to see the documents, I hope to have copies up here within two days. I want to read over the transcripts myself because I was so stressed at the time that the incident seemed to be happening incredibly fast, and yet at the same time with that "slow motion" quality of a car accident, so I sometimes wonder myself if it really happened. Whenever I go down the hall past the door to my son's room though, the door is closed and it's so quiet that I know it all really did happen.

8:05 AM

 
Blogger Rev. Sysphus said...

Oh my Bob!
A story like this makes me VERY glad that my Lady's ex-douchebag actually signed away 100% of his parental rights to the child they had together. This enabled me to adopt him and therefore he is no different from his 3 half-siblings who are halflings no longer since the adoption and name change. This is something that her ex-POS would have tried if he had the money to file the paperwork but since he was always broke and unable to pay his child support, he never actually had the $30 to file the request. We paid the fees for him to terminate his rights. I wish I could do more than simply comment but I will try to get the story as far and wide as I ossibly can. Hang in there you two...

12:46 PM

 
Blogger Son of Solomon said...

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2:44 PM

 
Blogger Son of Solomon said...

I guess nobody likes their religion being mocked, huh? Here I thought it was just Muslims.

Regardless of the reasons it seems ironic to me that a mother who selfishly moves her child away from his father now suffers the pangs of distance. I know, he's a dad, and if we've learned anything from TV, it's that dads are pretty worthless; especially if Mom says so. It is almost a piece of justice...except the kid is real, and now he's being robbed of his mother. If this is awful for anyone it certainly is for Kohl.

This isn't really a matter of an offended judge. This is a matter of foolish laws that were passed to "protect children". Really, they are tools to punish parents; most often fathers, but here we see it can go the other way.

One more thing: this ordeal is fresh, but it was your birthday and you're just going to try to forget about it and put your wants above what you supposedly think is best for Kohl. At least you're consistent.

2:46 PM

 
Blogger Rachel Bevilacqua said...

Son of Solomon: I realize that when you posted your comment the documents were not yet uploaded. I urge you to read the facts before you decide who is right in this matter. All I am asking for is for a court to treat me with dignity regardless of how tasteless my performance art seems to the judge. Nobody deserves to be yelled at and insulted in a courtroom in the United States of America. We can do better.

9:38 PM

 
Blogger sumatra22 said...

I cannot offer an opinion on this matter, nor should I. This information is not my business however it has presented itself to me via the Brushwood website. I am sorry for your case and will offer one suggestion. Remove all documentation with your son's full name, his birthdate and ESPECIALLY his Social Security Number. If you think having pictures of yourself at X-day damaged your rep in court, all info on your son posted to a public website will do even more damage.

Good luck to your son, may no harm find him in this situation.

9:11 AM

 
Blogger Rachel Bevilacqua said...

Sumatra: Believe me, exposing all this to the glare of the blogosphere was not what I wanted. I chose to do this only after exhausting all the normal methods of getting justice.

I did everything in my power to proceed with this case without involving the SubGenius or the internet, or anything else about my life that is irrelevant to whether or not I'm a good parent. I did not bring up any of this. I hired the best lawyer I could find, and he put together a meticulously detailed, beautifully written packet of papers that proves with absolute clarity that the allegations against me are completely false, and furthermore that whatever I've done on the internet must not have harmed my son, as he is a fine, happy, smart kid. Kohl didn't get that way during his visitation breaks with his father, he got that way because I raised him that way.

What happened to me on February 3, 2006 was not fair, and I'm not going to help cover it up by going along with the line of "don't expose it to the world or the judge will get even more angry."

As for what my son will think of it when he's a teenager and someday sees all this in some dusty archive somewhere, I hope that he realizes that I am doing all this because this is what has to be done to get him back. I don't have 50 grand laying around. I don't have senators in my pocket. All I have are you people, and the truth.

I wish every moment that I could tell my son I love him, but I have been forbidden to. So I talk to the world instead, and maybe someday, even if I am never given back contact rights with him, Kohl will read about this and know that no matter what he may have been told, the truth is that I love him and I am trying anything and everything I can think of, even desperate internet pleas, to be with him again.

12:20 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry to hear that two great people are going through such a tough time. Kohl is a great a brillant young man and it shows what a great training he has had at home. I hope things look up for them and Kohl is back with his mom really soon. She loves him and misses him.

9:31 PM

 
Blogger Hastur said...

Good luck Rachel, Your son has gotten so big! You should think twice about redneck hillbilly justice, the fact that you are still working within the system troubles me, explore other options if the bill is too high.

10:31 AM

 
Anonymous Becki said...

*sends hugs* Hope things work out for you both, it's absolutely sickening that a single man should be allowed to force his religion on others, I thought the crusades were over? There seems absolutely no reason you should have had your son stolen from you and I find it questionable that the judge thinks a healthy, well adjusted boy is more at risk in a non-christian family than he is with a man who is a liar, a kidnapper himself (legal or not) and lives in a far different situation than your own, taking away all security and familiarity. I'll be making a donation as soon as I can.

6:58 AM

 
Blogger Txfeminist said...

This is a horrible violation of your rights. I'm so sorry. Your poor son. Are you able to speak to him at all?

One quick comment: while usually judicial bias is responsible for reprehensible decisions like this, juries can be just as judgmental and pig-headed. Here in my Red State I've seen juries crucify moms for less than dancing around wearing a goat-head.

I hope with all my heart the appeals court sees this for what it was, a sleazy snatch-n-grab.

In the meantime - are you filing anything that will allow you to get visitation until a final decision is made?

9:36 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do feel bad that you lost your son, and the way it was done, but when the court was presented with a possible kidnapping, and then in addition -those pictures they have an obligation to immediately take the child out of danger, even if it is alleged. I myself am going through a custody battle, so I know how you feel. But first of all I would not do anything that would give the father ammo against me. I have read about this religion and I do believe everyone has the right to believe in what they chose to, but come on now, it's a joke gone too far. It’s hurting you and your son.

Doing outrageous things are supposed to be explored before you decide to have a child. After you have a child, you are supposed to settle down and get into mother mode. How would your son feel if he sees those pictures of you? What if you hade a daughter and saw pictures on the internet of her being nude? You really have to curb your actions and think in a more mature motherly way. I was considered a little "wild" in my day, but after I had my child, it was time to get serious.

If you want to get your son back, get some counseling and find out why you feel the need to be out there in those fairs in the first place. Maybe you’re lacking in self esteem or some other personal issue. At least the judge will see that you are trying to change your ways.

I know you might think, well I have the right to expression and religion and all that..which I understand, but which is more important..dancing naked with a goat head or raising your son and having him with you again.

Remember being a mother is all about sacrifices, sacrifices, sacrifices. Being with your child should be the most important thing. The courts are going to be ruling with mainstream ideas. Nothing you can personally do about that, in time for this case to be decided. Just go through the necessary procedures that you need to go to in order to get your son back. You can ask you lawyer what needs to be done, how can you show that you are a responsible mother. Then do it!! I think you should put all this X Day fairs and all that comes with it behind you and totally disassociate yourself from it entirely. Chose to be with your son.

Also you have to behave in a moral manner, because everything you do in the judges eyes will directly affects on how you are with your son. It seems like there is just too much negativity associated with this religion.

11:01 AM

 
Blogger Rachel Bevilacqua said...

Anonymous:

The most cursory investigation of the original allegations made against me would have revealed them to be completely untrue. The judge had a responsibility to do that before taking any action, and he dishonored his robes, failed the people of his county, and directly and catastrophically harmed my son when he neglected to do that.

As for your opinions on what a proper mother should be like, I'm sure they work for you. The beauty of America is that you are free to be a mother however you choose. If you honestly believe that mothers who happen to be artists should put aside their art in order to devote themselves solely to the role of mother, then fine, live your life that way.

I happen to believe it's more healthy to live as a whole person who does her best in all the roles she plays in life -- mother, wife, artist, day-job-holder, friend, neighbor, etc.

I am an artist, and that is how God made me. If my art offends some, that probably means I'm doing it right. If my son saw the pictures of me on the internet, I would hope he would say, "Wow, my mom's part of the SubGenius, and that's a famous art movement! Cool!"

Not every mother has to be June Cleaver. Artists have children all the time, and they usually grow up just fine, regardless of the hysteria of small-minded people.

9:20 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doubt that Kohl would ever think that what you do is cool. It is disgusting, and he may have already seen pictures of you naked. You sound far from perfect, and this poor child deserves to have a parent that loves him, and keeps his well-being in mind. that seems to be his father. I agree that you should have settled down when you decided to get nocked up! If you and your husband are in such a loving marrige, then why haven't you had kids? I heard that the SubGenius are all disease infested. Diseases are not trading cards hun, you don't want to catch them all. Let your son be happy. If he wasn't doing well with his father, the courts or social services would have delivered him to you by now. I'd like to hear the other side to this story. Your poor me sob story seems a bit lacking. Also, from what I have seen of you, your a pretty homely thing, you're lucky you could find 2 men in your life that would touch you with a 10 foot pole!!!

1:27 AM

 
Anonymous Mystylplx said...

Why do I get the feeling the above comment was posted by the ex? Maybe it's that I find it unlikely someone could show that much emotional venom if they are a disinterested party.

Then the comment, "Also, from what I have seen of you, your a pretty homely thing, you're lucky you could find 2 men in your life that would touch you with a 10 foot pole!!!" besides being patently untrue, just sounds like the sort of thing a bitter spiteful ex would say.

10:36 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know of this James P. Punch of Orleans County. . .

Albion NY is like something out of the Twilight Zone -- the community's entire economic base is tied up in the "corrections" industry. This is a community of "turnkeys" with a xenophobic "Us VS Them" prison mentality -- very unlike most other rural communities in Upstate New York.

James Punch has a long history of "arbitrary & capricious" decisions, and the court clerk is notorious for failing to respond to all sorts of queries, even those submitted by lawyers.

James Punch is a petty tyrant -- an unstable mockery of all that which is Just, who rules over his court with an iron fist. I believe that such a one is incapable of compassion, fairness, or even common decency, and I'm glad that this creature of darkness is finally getting the nationwide exposure he has long deserved.

You're a lovely girl, Rachel, and I wish you the best.

6:51 PM

 
Blogger Txfeminist said...

Anonymous who said:
"I doubt that Kohl would ever think that what you do is cool." etc.

Blogger can log your IP address on subpoena from Rachel's attorney. It will point to your location.

If it turns out that you're Kohl's dad - guess what? The kind of vitriol you've said here will show the truth about you and your obvious hatred of Rachel.

That kind of thing does NOT go over well in court.

Get a clue: Lying to the court to provide you with an opportunity to pull a snatch-n-grab will only work for you in the short run.

You're obviously so insanely jealous of your ex's new husband you are seeing red. Telling your son he can't call anyone else dad? What kind of a control freak are you? Do you think your son will love you *more* for that?

The good news for Rachel is that because of your shenanigans, there's no chance in hell your son's ever going to have any respect for you ever again after all this.

Did you really think otherwise?

Get a clue!

10:00 AM

 
Anonymous Kari Newton said...

Rachel I toohave been a victim of Judge Punchs. He is a racist agianst women and that is widely none throughout the community and with most lawyers in the area. Everything my ex alledged was proven false and I still last my children. He is known for making decisions in the mans favor when everyone including the law guardians know it is not in the childs best interest. I hope this is blown wide open and that asshole is removed from the bench. My children suffered dearly because of this man and many more will if something isnt done. I now have my children back and my ex who did all of this agrees that I was treated horribly by him in court. If there is anything I can do please let me know! Karianne Newton( Bartlett) rochester kari01@frontiernet.net

6:25 PM

 
Anonymous TYR said...

I find it unacceptable that this judge actually yelled at you and insulted you in what is supposed to be a Court of Law. I find it appalling that this judge seems to have taken the side of your ex -- an Albion resident, no doubt employed in one of their many correctional institutions -- without any apparent investigation of the facts, or consideration as to how this would affect Kohl. From my understanding, your ex had only minimal contact with Kohl over the past decade, and only NOW this has become a major issue with him? And this judge -- apparently acting on no authority but his own -- authorized a surprise snatch of a Texas resident based only on the word of a disgruntled ex and a few humorous photos taken at a public function sponsored by a well known group of artists, comedians, and social critics? Hardly the "satanic orgy" some would have us think! By the way, Rachel -- I think you're really hot -- and I think that your ex was so consumed by jealousy when he saw those photos of you "having too much fun" that he is using these proceedings as a way to punish you for being way cooler than he. After you get your son back -- and you will -- I'd advise you to sue him for everything you can think of, and pursue criminal charges as well, for the Law was never intended to be misused like this. He should see how it feels to be on the other side of the bars, for a change!

8:15 PM

 
Anonymous grunchtherunch said...

good luck rachel

and i think i speak for a lot of people when i say "fuck em if they cant take a joke"

8:39 AM

 
Anonymous Grunch said...

hiya jus needed to get in touch rachel i want to post a small flash outlining your case on newgrounds.com i thought id beter get sum input or comment from you heres my email send me an adress and i will email you the file

markffitch@hotmail.com

6:22 AM

 
Anonymous ---------->Gene<--------- said...

Rachel. I don't know how to get a hold of you to offer support. This is the only place I can think of. As soon as my auctions go through, expect a donation from me. I've missed you terribly.

12:33 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how is an X day celebration any different than what our international leaders do during their annual meeting at the Bohemain Grove? Strangely, I've never heard a word about taking the twins away from GWB.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archivebohemiangrove.html

I hope you find peace. I know from experience that there's nothing worse than being seperated from your children.

8:23 PM

 
Anonymous LOBSTRA said...

If that judge is Catholic, maybe he'd like to explain how X-Day is so much worse than Mardi Gras, the infamous catholic holiday-turned annual orgy.

What a douchebag.

Also, I'd like to give a big round of applause to all these amateur internet psychologists in this comments page. You guys clearly have a firm grasp on the human mind if you can psycho-analyse people OVER THE INTERNET without even conversing with them! You all have great careers at the Psychic Friends Network in front of you!

12:01 PM

 
Anonymous A disinterested party said...

>Why do I get the feeling the above >comment was posted by the ex? Maybe >it's that I find it unlikely someone >could show that much emotional venom >if they are a disinterested party.

>...just sounds like the sort of thing >a bitter spiteful ex would say.

Well. Notice, boys and girls, this is a classical rhetorical game - label the other idea as "coming from the enemy," because if it's the enemy, you don't have to listen, or think. Clearly, you learned this from Karl Rove, your hero: "You don't like the the war? You must be an Al-Quaeda operative! We don't have to listen to your objections: scum like you should be put on the no-fly list!"

Keep in mind that every custody case has two sides, and you're only getting one. Perhaps the boy wishes to move, perhaps the father is a good guy and just has a difference of opinion on what's appropriate behavior around his boy. Undoubtedly there's a lot under the surface, a lot of back history. But villifying other opinions has never done anyone (or any administration) any good for long.

7:36 AM

 
Anonymous Dorko said...

I understand very little about the Church of The SubGenius (only what I could find on Wikipedia), but any organization that Penn Jillette is a member of can't be that bad.

Now, from what is presented in this blog, Kohl was not at these events. SubGenius is a religion just as much a Scientology is, and should therefore be under the same protections. Regardless of what goes on at these events, so long as it can not be PROVEN illegal, they should be protected.

I wish you all the luck in this world and any others in your legal battle. Saddly, as I am 16 and jobless, that is all I can contribute to your cause. I recognize the importance of mothers to a level that can only be appreciated when you no longer have one around (I lost my mother to breast cancer in 2003). I can only imagine how bad this is for Kohl who has in essence been robbed of his mother even though she is alive and kicking. I can only hope that he is given his mommy back ASAP.

9:06 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm jumping into the middle of this with little or no back story to support my wholly unfounded and outrageous claims to follow... but that never stopped me before ;-> I am not a SG but they sure sound funny to me. Any group that Penn (of Penn & Teller?) would join has got to be a really funny group. Two things: 1) blogposter "Tyr" was soooo very right, you are very hot Rachel... but I digress... 2) Hello "McFly"! The "goathead"? Didn't any of you SG's get the psycho-religious connection to Judge Punch (& judy?) and ex-hubby's "secret society" pseudo-religious ties & connections? Ya' think maybe Rach' (or whoever it was) may have stepped on a few of "their" secret deity's many toes??? How about doing some deep background research? Ask the local "G"-men's club in Punchey's or hubby's hometown if he is on the lodge membership role - usually not that secret. Why else do you think he recused himself (I dunno I wasn't paying attention)? Judges do that when they have a "personal" interest in the case... "hello McFly!". Bob would be appalled at your lack of SubGenii insight here - and my apalling spelling and grammar ;-> )!!! 13013

7:35 AM

 
Anonymous mikehara said...

Here's a link to another case (murder) involving James Punch recusing himself. He convicted the wrong man.
http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=5ce81b28-3428-4b89-8248-8b0766a82ce7&rss=102

2:17 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Rachel and Steve,
I have been a Subgenius member since 1992. I was an art student at Youngstown ST. I watched your wedding ceremony take place in the garden at the Wick-Pollak Inn. I have been to many x-days with you. I have bought a goat shirt and donated money. I have been part of a group that wrote the visitaion guidelines for the state of Ohio. Please e-mail me. I may be able to help. cavaliers01@aol.com

10:40 AM

 
Blogger Azraelite1 said...

This in unacceptable. I can't believe that jerk judge could be so cruel. Goddamn...this shit sucks and me and the SubGenii I know are spreading the word of this like wildfire. If only I coul do more

This is a bulletin I put on myspace

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I'm a SubGenius myself and I supposed I should't have children because, by having a sense of humour, I shouldn't be allowed children because I represent a threat of some sort?

Ludicrous. Fucking ludicrous

I'm trying to dob this out to as many people as possible. That is fucking cruel to deny a mother of her child for an indecent reason, and by doing so, not only has the judge overstepped the boundaries severely, he also defied what he's employed to deliver - justice

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I wish you the best of luck.

Cali x

12:38 PM

 
Blogger Danæl said...

I'm imagining a court case where a mother is deemed unfit to raise her son because she believes in a religion who's sacred book commands its followers to stone disobedient children to death, tells them they can legally buy slaves from foreigners, and commands multiple genocides.

Of course, I have trouble imagining this happening in God's blessed country of America because the religion I described is Christianity (from verses Dt 21:18, Lev 25:45, and Dt 13:6, respectively).

I think all the social conservatives lecturing this poor woman about how she needs to be a "good mother" and put her Sub-Genius shenanigans behind her for the sake of her son should think long and hard about what they're saying. What would happen if a judge refuses to allow a Christian mother to raise her child because he personally finds select parts of the Bible repulsive? If this judge put the book of Leviticus in front of the mother and ordered her to show him a verse that he would find morally acceptable, would you or would you not be outraged?

This hypothetical example is as absurd--and as blatantly unconstitutional--as Ms. Bevilacqua's case, and yet you people think she should bow down to this "justice"?

10:54 PM

 
Anonymous Consolamentum said...

I just happened to read about this case in the Wikipedia article on the Church of the Subgenius and I think that Judge Punch's ruling is completely absurd, not to mention hypocritical.

You don't see this kind of thing happening to snake handlers, biblical literalists and rapture believers, for example - people who I personally find to be extremely suspicious since they (as opposed to CSG members) are dead serious about their beliefs.

4:37 PM

 
Anonymous lostmommytoo said...

I am from Nebraska, and lost my ten year old daughter two and a half years ago to the exact brand of 'justice' that Judge Punch showed towards you. No, I am not a Sub Genius- however, I got stuck because I happened to move out of state to get away from my abusive ex... My ex and I separated, and he didnt want anything to do with her until she 'had a mind'- his saying, not mine. He also wanted me to have an abortion with her because he didnt like the fact that I was pregnant...so instead, he denied the fact that he was her father for over a year, didnt want anything to do with her until second grade..then BOOM!! I wasnt notified of the change of custody, nor was I served by the sheriff. He and his mother came down for a 'visit' and when I was on the phone with 911, they took her out the back door while she was kicking and screaming for them to stop. Only when the state patrol pulled them over did they produce papers, and guess what? Oh, goodness golly, they had lied and told them that I was doing so many things- but one question- why didnt anyone call Child Protective Services- especially when I worked for a daycare? Hmmm...To make this long story short, I had to move back to the town I hated (and still do, for that matter) and still do not have full custody- even tho I am married, have a full time job, and do not drink or do any drugs. My ex, on the other hand, is always tweaking out and has no money- and on top of all that, is currently screwing my sister.

Trust me, I feel for you. If you need any help, or just need to reach out to someone who understands, get ahold of me. It sucks, I know- but things will get better. Some things always have a way of working itself out.
Just rest now, and keep everything in a file so when the time comes, you can just pull it all out...I wonder if our judges are related? It sure seems so!! :)

cathikelsey@yahoo.com

ps- if anyone else decides to start spamming me, I will get really, really mean...:)

4:44 PM

 
Anonymous lostmommytoo said...

I am from Nebraska, and lost my ten year old daughter two and a half years ago to the exact brand of 'justice' that Judge Punch showed towards you. No, I am not a Sub Genius- however, I got stuck because I happened to move out of state to get away from my abusive ex... My ex and I separated, and he didnt want anything to do with her until she 'had a mind'- his saying, not mine. He also wanted me to have an abortion with her because he didnt like the fact that I was pregnant...so instead, he denied the fact that he was her father for over a year, didnt want anything to do with her until second grade..then BOOM!! I wasnt notified of the change of custody, nor was I served by the sheriff. He and his mother came down for a 'visit' and when I was on the phone with 911, they took her out the back door while she was kicking and screaming for them to stop. Only when the state patrol pulled them over did they produce papers, and guess what? Oh, goodness golly, they had lied and told them that I was doing so many things- but one question- why didnt anyone call Child Protective Services- especially when I worked for a daycare? Hmmm...To make this long story short, I had to move back to the town I hated (and still do, for that matter) and still do not have full custody- even tho I am married, have a full time job, and do not drink or do any drugs. My ex, on the other hand, is always tweaking out and has no money- and on top of all that, is currently screwing my sister.

Trust me, I feel for you. If you need any help, or just need to reach out to someone who understands, get ahold of me. It sucks, I know- but things will get better. Some things always have a way of working itself out.
Just rest now, and keep everything in a file so when the time comes, you can just pull it all out...I wonder if our judges are related? It sure seems so!! :)

cathikelsey@yahoo.com

ps- if anyone else decides to start spamming me, I will get really, really mean...:)

4:45 PM

 

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